Heather Wright and Katie Sanders are back for another chat. This time the PhD candidates from UC Irvine and I sit down with some home brew from their friend Bach Tran to talk more about their studies in cancer research. We get further into what we know about it, how it may be overcome, and what it's like to proselytize on a plane. The beer is great, and the conversation is full of fascinating information.

The music at the end of this episode is from Common Miner. The album is called The Match that Stayed Lit, and the song is Gardner.

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