The conversation with Susie Schober and E.P., who both have PhDs in Electrical Engineering from USC, continues over more beer from Indian Wells Brewing. They share some Special Black Lobotomy Bock Lager, and get further into computer chips, data, server farms, and whether they would create a universe of their own.

The song at the end is Toe Cutter - Thumb Buster from Thee Oh Sees.

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